Showing posts sorted by relevance for query EEE PC 900. Sort by date Show all posts
Showing posts sorted by relevance for query EEE PC 900. Sort by date Show all posts

Saturday, May 3, 2008

EEE PC Competition: about EEE PC 701 and 900, MSI Wind, EasyNote XS, Elox One, Dell Vostro 1400 and OLPC XO-1

CNET is one of the premium source for electronics review, I post quick links to CNET's reviews of EEE PC 701 and 900 as well as some of the most interesting competitors

Actually this is not real competition for the EEE PC, nevertheless it is worth listing what you can get for less than 400 dollars. Some of them designed for shool childrens and with very little horse power.
Just for completeness CNET compares to the Dell Vostro 1400, much bigger than an EEE PC however with similar pricing, nothing impressive you may say. Well it is indeed: in the price a 120GB hard disk and a DVD burner are included!!! CNET previouw of the Dell Vostro 1400

All links from CNET.co.uk

More on EEE Journal Home Page

Sunday, May 11, 2008

EEE PC - CPU for 700, 701 and 900


There is a lot of confusion about the EEE PC CPU, especially about CPU clock and cache size.
All models released so far use an Intel Celeron-M ULV (Ultra Low Voltage), model 353.

CPU Cache (from the Celeron M 353 datasheet) :
  • 32KB L1 instruction + 32KB L1 data cache (write back)
  • 512KB L2 cache
CPU frequency
  • EEE PC 700 (2G) : 571 MHz (from original 800 MHz)
  • EEE PC 701 (4G, 8G) : 630 MHz (from original 900 MHz)
  • EEE PC 900 : the original 900 MHz
Front Side Bus: 400 MHz (original...)

It is possible (and you void the guarrantee!) to overclocking the CPU and/or replace the CPU with a Pentium-M ULV.

EEE Journal Home Page

Sunday, May 18, 2008

EEE PC News - Benchmark comparing Atom (Diamondville) vs Celeron vs Core 2 Duo

UPDATE: see also new post with new tests/benchmarks and all articles about

The Japanese site Impress (pc.watch.impress.co.jp) published PCMark 05 benchmark results comparing a MSI Wind desktop (not to be confused with the MSI Wind ultra portable laptop).
So you may say, what's the matter? The benchmark is of interest since the MSI Wind desktop is equipped with an Atom (Diamondville) CPU clocked at 1.33GHz, chipset Intel 945GC Express, 1GB SDRAM, Windows Vista.
The other tested devices
  • Asus EEE PC 900: Celeron M 900MHz, 1GB SDRAM and Windows XP
  • Asus EEE PC 701 4G: Celeron M 630MHz, 512MB SDRAM and Windows XP
  • Sony Vaio T VGN TZ905: Core 2 Duo U7600 (1.2GHz), 2GB SDRAM and Windows XP
Before giving the results: also in this case I have some (little) doubths about the test methodology! It is important to compare apple with apples! Nevertheless I must say that the result of this benchmark is far more applicable to the Atoms SuperPI benchmark and the CrystalMark benchmarks agains VIA Isaiah (C8) other published in the past weeks.

There were two major differences between the Atom system (MSI Wind desktop) and the other systems
  1. Operating system: the Atom and Core 2 Duo systems were running Windows Vista while the EEE PCs run Windows XP. Vista slows down dramatically PC performance. This is especially true for systems with little memory and for slower CPUs, as typical for ultra portable laptops and tiny desktops.
  2. PC type: Impress compared the three listed ultra portable laptops with a tiny desktop. This is also not optimal, since tiny desktops and ultra portable laptops are built using different parts and requirements.
That said, here you have some of the results.
Compared to the Celeron system, the Atom system scores well on the system tests while in the CPU benchmark the Atom numbers look very bad.
It seems confirmed that Intel Atom is not suitable for CPU intensive tasks, BUT WHO CARES????
Atom's best feature is the very low power consumption, Atom targets cheap ultra portable laptops and desktops, mainly used for surfing and casual Office. If you need performance you should buy a Core 2 Duo and add 1000 bucks by the way... ;-)

PCMark05 (syntetic index of the overall system performance)
  • 2328 Core 2 Duo 1,2GHz
  • 1468 Atom 1,33GHz
  • 1126 Celeron 900MHz
  • 818 Celeron 630MHz
CPU Score (use very CPU intensive algorithms: file comp/decompression, en/decryption, image and audio comp/decompression)
  • 2328 Core 2 Duo 1,2GHz
  • 1441 Celeron 900MHz
  • 1159 Atom 1,33GHz
  • 997 Celeron 630MHz
The good PCMark05 value can be explained to the relatively high HDD score (4x higher than the EEE PC 900, 2x higher than the Vaio) and the good memory score (slightly below the Vaio and higher than both EEE PCs).
About the CPU score: I think that here we can see that the Atom was designed with power in mind, not for CPU intensive task. We can see this especially with the major difference between the Atom and Core 2 Duo result. The latter scores well, given the dual core and the performant CPU architecture. Also the Celeron CPU is much more complex than the Atom and we see the results in the CPU benchmark.

UPDATE: see also new post with new tests/benchmarks and all articles about

Sunday, May 11, 2008

EEE PC vs MSI Wind - Atom vs Celeron CPU Performance Benchmark

See also

A German site (Computerbase) run the SuperPI benchmark on a Asus R70A UMPC equipped with the Atom 1,6 GHz (Silverthorne), the new Intel CPU targeting MID, UMPC and ultra portable devices.
The same processor is going to be equipped in the MSI Wind and in new EEE PCs and Gigabyte M912.

At a first glance the result seems a bit disappointing for a new CPU: the 1,6 GHz Atom CPU seems slower than the 900 MHz Celeron CPU found in EEE PC 900 and much slower than the 1,73 GHz Pentium M 740.
Number talks you may say: just considering the lower end
  • 1,13 GHz Pentium III-M (Tualatin) 01:55 minutes (worse)
  • 1,6 GHz Atom (Silverthorne) 01:48 minutes
  • 900 MHz Celeron (Dothan-512) 01:28 minutes
  • 1,73 GHz Pentium M 740 (Dothan) 00:46 minutes
However the Intel Atom has a bigger potential, not shown from this benchmark!
Some facts
  1. The german guys compared a pre-production product (with Atom processor) against mature products! We all know that pre-production products are often not very optimized and this is probably the case. Furthermore, the benchmark run on a UMPC: these kind of products are optimized for battery, not for performance.
  2. SuperPI does a lot of number crunching, this is not Atom's target application! Atom is optimized for ultra portable applications, it means for low power. I simply ignore these kind of benchmarks: they say very little to the real-life performance.
  3. Intel Atom supports hyperthreading: as far as I know SuperPI doesn't take avantage of it. This technology can improve real life applications from 10%-30%. The tested Celeron and Pentium M don't. have this potential.
  4. Intel Atom's relatively small L2 cache (only 512KB) may be accounted for the bad results especially if compared to the Pentium M (2048KB)
I think that in the next few months we'll see much more tests and better results product based on Intel's Atom

Related articles
New: see posts about dual core Atom
See also how to replace CPU on EEE PC
See also new post with new tests/benchmarks, articles about Benchmarks and Performance

Sunday, May 18, 2008

EEE PC News - BIOS Upgrade for EEE PC 900

A BIOS upgrade (0501) is available for the EEE PC 900. The official description is "Updated panel PWM frequency": this is probably referring to a fix to the "screen whine" problem.
The major news are
  • It is not possible to manually configure the CPU clock (630MHz and 900MHz) the lower frequency is automatically set to 630MHz in battery mode.
  • Increase in the display brightness
  • Fix the screen whine problem
EEE Journal Home Page

Monday, May 12, 2008

EEE PC News - EEE PC 20G and 12G Pre-Orders

It is possible to pre-order the EEE PC 20G and 12G at Amazon.com in US, availability early June.
They are from the EEE PC 900 series, equipped with 8.9 inch screen (1024x600), 900 MHz CPU, 1GB RAM and 20GB hard disk (SDD, Solid State Drive) .
The only difference is the operating system: Linux for the 20G and Windows-XP for the 12G.

EEE Journal Home Page

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

EEE PC Competition - MSI Wind subnotebook

MSI announced the Wind subnotebook, in two version with a 8.9 and 10 inch screen with LED backlighting and 1024x600 resolution, Intel Atom processor and 1GB RAM. The most interesting feature is definetly the 80GB hard disk! The subnotebook will be sold with Windows XP, pricing not clear yet. See also here.
Just looking at the news, to date MSI Wind seems to be the thoughest competitor for the EEE PC 900 and the recently announced 10-inch model.


More on EEE Journal Home Page

Saturday, January 17, 2009

Bluetooth for Aspire One A150, Samsung NC10, Medion Akoya Mini E1210 netbooks


UPDATE: Netbook and Bluetooth - Integrated vs USB Dongle


Please go directly to the newest post, since the Bluetooth dongle suggested in this post may have major software problems!

You want to buy the netbook that best fits you (e.g. using the netbook features database),
you are close to buy a top class netbook/mini laptop, such as the Samsung NC10, the Acer Aspire A150 or the Medion Akoya Mini E1210 when you see that it is missing a Bluetooth interface. What to do? You really need Bluetooth in the netbook to synchronize the mobile phone calendar or just to listen to music!
My suggestion: Bluetooth support in the netbook shouldn't be a go/not go criteria, you can simply add Bluetooth support using a Bluetooth USB dongle, there are many starting just below $10 (USD) and some of them are so tiny that you even won't see it.
This micro USB Bluetooth adapter simply disappears in the USB port of your netbook, so you can plug it once and forget it. You won't notice it! No damage to break it!
The Samsung NC10 or the Acer Aspire A150 got 3 USB ports so you'll have "just" two USB ports left, however it is far enough for 99% of us!
(At the time of writing) Beside the mentioned one, many other netbooks aren't equipped with a Bluetooth port: the HP MiniNote 2133, Acer Aspire A110, Fukato Jupiter, Lenovo Ideapad S9/S10, Fujitsu Amilo Mini Ui3520, Gigabyte M912, EEE PC 700/701/900/901. So if you really like the netbook however you miss Bluetooth, just buy an USB dongle/adapter!

Important! Installing a Bluetooth USB dongle/adapter is matter of minutes with Windows XP, for a Linux netbook the installation is a bit more complex and you need a minimal linux experience, look here for instructions on EEE PC (mostly similar for other netbooks).

UPDATE: Netbook and Bluetooth - Integrated vs USB Dongle

Please go directly to the newest post, since the Bluetooth dongle suggested in this post may have major software problems!


Remember that using the EEE Journal Netbook database helps find your dream netbook, with or without Bluetooth and refining the search with many other paramenters (operating system, size, battery, etc...)
http://www.eeejournal.com/2008/12/netbook-feature-database.html

Wednesday, December 17, 2008

Netbook features database: find best netbook for you!

I've updated my netbook/mini-laptop/mini-notebook comparison table with many more models and details, it can be a great help to find the best netbook for you!
I called it "netbook database" with many details/features about the most important netbooks/mini laptops actually on sale and especially some filter criterias that can help you choose the right netbook to buy.

You can search by display size, operating system, bluetooth support and battery. In the next few days I'll add more and more search criteria and especially details about performance/benchmarks.
Among others, you can currently find
  • Many EEE PC 701, 900, 901, 1000, 1000H, S101, N10
  • Acer Aspire One models
  • MSI Wind U90 and U100
  • Samsung NC10

Display class
Operating system
Bluetooth support
High capacity battery
Weight
ExpressCard
WLAN/WiFi



Link to the netbook/mini laptops database